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Post  Post subject: New comment from a person who is going through those changes  |  Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:34 am
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"Hi,

Just wanted to add my thoughts to Jodi's.

I am a Mormon who has been on a journey for 10 year exploring my faith. In it I have come across a lot of information that raises some big questions on how I understood Mormon theology and history.  A lot of people would have left their faith by now and I have chosen to be very deliberative and cautious in my journey.  I don't want to be quick to dismiss what I once believed to be indisputable and I don't want to rush to conclusions when learning inconsistencies.  Currently I consider myself a cultural or social member of the church and time will bear whether this is even possible with the LDS and whether (through further knowledge gained) I will be forced to return to full belief in the Restored Gospel as it purports to be, or to eventually depart entirely.

In my measured approach I have done a lot of research from people from all walks of the Mormon spectrum from firm believers, to intellectual questioners, to ex-members to non-members (to use a Mormon lexicon). I have just recently come across you and your website. I find your website extremely well done. I love the tone and professionalism. It is what I believe a Christ-like person would and should do in discussing their beliefs. You don't use an accusatory tone, loaded language. From what I have read (I haven't had the time to read it all!) you cite fair sources in a fair light as fact in an attempt to share truth. Not to tear down and demean. I just want to say 'well done.'"

Regards,

Kimball

The comment has been placed along with Jodi's http://richkelsey.org/about_this_site.html

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joseph's myth
Post  Post subject: New comment from a person who is going through those changes  |  Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:11 am
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Strange thing it is when going through changes like ("those"), like these, like both of them. Good thing there are people like you to try and help out Rich.


You're not that much unlike a Desmond Doss to us all Rich. Really.

Hacksaw Ridge reference, of course.

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richkelsey.org
Post  Post subject: Re: New comment from a person who is going through those cha  |  Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:22 am
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Hey Joey. I appreciate you too!

Desmond Doss; it takes a lot of balls to do what he did. That man was a real hero: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacksaw_Ridge
Against all odds, what he did was unbelievable. No doubt his prayers & faith helped save all those men.

I'm thinking you are doing the same basic thing, yet, spiritually. By coming back to rescue more fallen soldiers. That attitude can be attributed to every one of us here.

Good news: I was going through my fire safe a few days ago & I dug out my business license for global evangelism along with all the related paperwork. The reason: I just acquired a new domain name: globalevangelism.online

That means a new website is in the works. Yet, it's going to be a while before it is published. The new format is going to include videos. Also, it needs to work better with mobile devices.

I would love to see a video of a Mormon family on the new site sitting at a table on a Monday evening drinking bitter-sweet Kool-Aid with an ugly looking black olive in each glass trying to decide if they should toss the olive or just swallow it?

That is the picture given in FHE Lesson Six: http://richkelsey.org/lds_fhe_lesson6.html

"Be careful what you set your heart on because you will certainly have it."

I hope so.

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Post  Post subject: Re: New comment from a person who is going through those cha  |  Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:35 am
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That black olive and that seer stone look a little similar, but I bet you could get a different olive that looks even more similar if you wanted.

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joseph's myth
Post  Post subject: New comment from a person who is going through those changes  |  Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:34 am
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productofchoice wrote:
That black olive and that seer stone look a little similar, but I bet you could get a different olive that looks even more similar if you wanted.

Peace


Smooth and brownish, shiny and small like a mini-peepstone the LDS Essays were forced to admit he used. I get that, I get it. But we don't want to go there and rub their faces in it, that's not where it's at this time. I mean, who better than me "joseph's myth" to help make fun of Mormonism, of Joseph Smith, of PeepStones of Latter-day Saints?

What's maybe important here is some understanding, some careful clarification this time. Maybe clear and concisely held introspection because it helps the healing process.

The LDS leadership doesn't own the original manuscript papers Brigham Young tried earnestly to get his paws on, Emma Smith wasn't going to let them out of her watchful eye.

And it was exactly the moment when the Smith manuscripts were finally released, that the additionally and instantaneously created (very very controversial) Official LDS Essays were crafted and immediately published.

After sitting on the Joseph Smth manuscript that first went to the printer creating the very first Book Of Mormon for over a hundred years, the Community Of Christ (which owns the Kirkland Temple) released the historical documents on tour. The description of Smith using the polished rocks is in those papers.

Now you know what happened to the original manuscript Joseph Smith used and why it was never talked about and why you didn't know a thing.

Nobody discussed it.
http://www.thespectrum.com/story/opinio ... autologin=

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