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Rosebud
Post  Post subject: Hugh B. Brown  |  Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:03 am
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”I admire men and women who have developed the questing spirit, who are unafraid of new ideas as stepping stones to progress. We should, of course, respect the opinions of others, but we should also be unafraid to dissent–if we are informed. Thoughts and expressions compete in the marketplace of thought, and in that competition truth emerges triumphant. Only error fears freedom of expression… This free exchange of ideas is not to be deplored as long as men and women remain humble and teachable. Neither fear of consequence or any kind of coercion should ever be used to secure uniformity of thought in the church. People should express their problems and opinions and be unafraid to think without fear of ill consequences…. We must preserve freedom of the mind in the church and resist all efforts to suppress it." Hugh B. Brown, March 25, 1958, BYU Speech, “Man and What He May Become.”

These words that were spoken almost sixty years ago are music to the ears, comfort to the soul, refreshingly and breathtakingly validating for those whose questing spirit has taken them out of the church.


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Melanie
Post  Post subject: Re: Hugh B. Brown  |  Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:40 am
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Hi Rosebud, Welcome!

Yes, this is a healing quote.

I think it is a strong position and a position of healing, to be able to notice and affirm all there is that is good in the church and to be able to treasure those parts, whilst at the same time moving forwards into a fuller more holistic and healthy future for ourselves and not letting the good in the church overcome all that we see and find out is very wrong.

We are a function of all of our experiences and I stand with you in acknowledging we are richer because we were, at one time, LDS.

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joseph's myth
Post  Post subject: Hugh B. Brown  |  Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:18 am
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Hugh B. Brown is a piece of turd poop, a piece of poop as brown as brown can be. He tried to contrive a plan to get the priesthood ban on blacks voted on and eliminated but on the absentee return, a new vote was immediately insisted. The 1969 efforts of Brown were thwarted.

If you read in between the lines of never being afraid of inquiry it is mostly because the LDS apostle (not any real Apostle) mind you, needed not be much afraid of truth because he held so much of the truth. Gimme a break, Brown is brainwashed in manure. As brainwashed in the brown stuff as Romney, except Mitt was a shiny turd, polished and pure poop.

Like John P. Dehlin though it can really have you going...

Just you remember, Trump wants no part of Romney because of how he fooled him. And Mormonism is filled with folly and contradiction. Always was, always will be.
http://www.mormonstories.org/are-there- ... spire-you/

Naaa... no thanks! I don't know what is worse, the apparent possible return of Stockholm Syndrome or just plain insecurity with separation anxiety.

Who be brown? That'll be Hugh B. Brown, and I'm not talking chocolate, either.

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productofchoice
Post  Post subject: Re: Hugh B. Brown  |  Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:48 am
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Hugh B. "Pasty White"
In a different type of white robe with white hat.
Eliminating crosses with prejudice.

Peace

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joseph's myth
Post  Post subject: Hugh B. Brown  |  Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:19 pm
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productofchoice wrote:
Hugh B. "Pasty White"
In a different type of white robe with white hat.
Eliminating crosses with prejudice.

Peace



What cha gonna do, this piece of crap (Brown) has both doubts in letters and talks and the Internet displays em all. Though, the Internet is displaying bunches and bunches of bits of important information about the LDS church (small C) so where are we going with this?

Nowhere...

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Melanie
Post  Post subject: Re: Hugh B. Brown  |  Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:50 pm
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Rosebud wrote:
............ music to the ears, comfort to the soul, refreshingly and breathtakingly validating for those whose questing spirit has taken them out of the church.


Concentrating on the whole point of Rosebud's post, ( In my opinion, hope I have this right Rosebud :) ), I read this on RfM from a poster Pooped. Can't say it better.

Time is what did it, (healing) for me. I stayed angry an awfully long time but now I think of the good lessons I learned. I learned to be more skeptical of ideas, sales pitches, and fast talking people. I learned that simple and naive is not a virtue but a state of mental infancy. Growing up means learning that life is complex and cannot be reduced to black and white, right or wrong, simplistic answers. Life requires thinking beyond following others. The things you have learned from getting sucked into Mormonism and finding your way out may have been hard won but they will serve you the rest of your life. And there are many, many who never learn these lessons. I am constantly amazed by how many people truly believe that never questioning authority is actually a virtue. We have learned otherwise. To remain "as a little child" is not the way to please God because God is within you and you need to make a good life. Making a good life requires you to be true to yourself and never feeling guilty that being yourself makes someone else uncomfortable. We were made to be unique and not to be carbon copies of a corporate model. You have lost a few opportunities in your three years as a Mormon but many have lost the better part of their lives to a lie. You are free now. Make the most of it. As Danny Kaye once said, "Life is a canvas. Throw as much paint at it as you can."

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joseph's myth
Post  Post subject: Hugh B. Brown  |  Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:15 pm
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Drop the Gauntlet, anybody's bound to maybe pick it up, heh.

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Rosebud
Post  Post subject: Re: Hugh B. Brown  |  Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:52 pm
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Melanie, Thanks so much for your two emails. Yes, you got it. You understand exactly what I was saying. I completely agree with the thoughts you expressed and with the quote you posted.


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Rosebud
Post  Post subject: Re: Hugh B. Brown  |  Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:29 am
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Joseph's Myth,

"Superstition" by Stevie Wonder has a great sound and insightful lyrics.

So does "Imagine" by John Lennon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwUGSYDKUxU


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Rosebud
Post  Post subject: Re: Hugh B. Brown  |  Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:29 am
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Product of Choice,
I can only guess at what your comments mean.

"Pasty White"
Just a funny play on words, I assume, but I would say White Patsy, just like all of us other patsies who have ever bought into a religion.

A different type of white robe with white hat.
Obviously a reference to the KKK, but if Hugh B. Brown was racist, he didn't seem know it when he pushed to have the priesthood ban lifted.

Eliminating crosses with prejudice?
You're going to have to explain this one, no clue.

"Product of Choice"?
You are no longer a product of brainwashing, but now a product of choice since leaving the church?

Don't ask me about any deep meaning to "Rosebud." No clue. It just popped into my head.


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