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Try to be "teachable" and you will rise above the poison administered in this blog.
Likewise, I’m sure. Is there a difference between being “teachable” and simply being teachable without the air-quotes?
Most of the assertions I read in several areas of this blog are false. The rest are exaggerations or manipulated nonsense.
Thank goodness it’s only “most” and not “all”. We can be grateful for that, right?
Please be specific. There have been so many posters and posts over the years here at exmormonforums.com that we can’t tell what it is you think are “exaggerations” and what you think are “manipulated nonsense”. Of course, I will agree that many assertions are false, that’s the result of people offering their honest opinions. No need to get nasty about the exercise of free speech.
You may be confusing “assertion” with claim
. For example, I can assert
that you are a Jehovah’s Witness. I have no evidence. And it’s wrong. But it is not a mere assertion to say that you are a Mormon, because there is some evidence for that. So are you really talking about genuine assertions (lacking evidence or support), or are you talking about experience-based conclusions that you hate because they are different from yours?
Many ex-mormons have an inner need to rationalize the reasons they left the Church.
Which ones are these?
Why do some (“many”) have that inner need and others do not?
Of course people find reasons for their actions!
Or, finding reason, act on them.
When a person joins the Mormon church, is it just random, chance, fate?
Or does a person joining the Mormon Church give reasons – rationalize his decision?
Everyone has or can quickly present reasoning for why his actions are justifiable. For decades, Mormons justified polygamy, now they justify monogamy. They justified not giving the priesthood to “blacks” – not just descendants of Cain but others who merely had dark skin; now they justify a racially open priesthood. It is normal for us to justify our beliefs and our actions - and
the changes in our beliefs and actions! Can you imagine otherwise?
The real reasons are:
- How were you able to scientifically (or rationally) distinguish the real from other (false) reasons? Please provide a brief summary of your research methodology, and sources you used.
Some want to return to alcohol, drugs or addictions.
So is it the case that you believe that Mormons who do not
leave the Mormon Church never "return" to alcohol, drugs or addictions? If so, you are a sheltered little fellow, aren’t you?
Do you believe that Mormons who drink alcohol, take drugs or engage in [harmful] addictions do not
rationalize their actions? If so, you aren’t asking questions. That makes you “unteachable”.
Are sinning Mormons significantly different in their ratiocinations from exmormons? If so, how?
note: I have met many Mormon students who drink alcohol and take drugs, and adult Mormons who admitted committing adultery and worse crimes. I cannot believe you have met none. I see no moral superiority of Mormons over ex-Mormons. Sure, ex-Mormons might drink and swear a little; but they are less likely to beat their wives, commit adultery, and lie about their beliefs than Mormons of my acquaintance and readings have been.
I have also met many Mormons who did not believe the Church is “true” and some do not even believe God exists. But they don’t want to rock their family or neighborhood boats, so they go through the motions of good Mormons; on the other hand, I have met many ex-Mormons who are tea-totalers, fanatically monogamous and anti-polygamist, absolutely and unapologetically monotheists, and some who are devout Christians, Buddhists and pagans. How are Mormons better?
Some want to justify selfishly keeping their money instead of paying a tithe.
How do you know?
What is “a tithe”? A tenth of income (regardless of outgo)? A tenth of increase (regardless of total income)? A tenth of all possessions? To be paid in dollars or in kind? Why only “a tithe” – don’t you know there were three tithes, and their purposes were clearly spelled out. Do you pay the three tithes, or just the one indulgence
the Church Bosses tell you that you
have to pay or you won’t get to heaven?
I am an ex-Mormon. Do you accuse me of “selfishly keeping” my money instead of paying a tithe? Do you have the foggiest idea what percentage of anyone’s
income goes to charities! You name-calling little marionette. I give 1/12 of my income each year to a set of specific charities that I personally like whether the Mormon Church does or not I don’t care; plus make additional contributions throughout the year to organizations and a few individuals who ask for it. (The Seventh Day Adventists have a school nearby. Each year students canvas the neighborhoods for donations to pay their high school tuition. I’m not a Seventh Day Adventist. I dislike some of their teachings. But I like the kids. I know the school they go to provides a pretty good education beyond the religious, so I donate. A local food bank makes requests now and then. I give money and bags of goods to people begging on street corners. Does the Mormon self-loving church do that?) You dare fault me for donating to charities of my choosing? If God doesn’t want me to donate to charities other than the Mormon Church, He can destroy those charities as He did the Nephites, and then I’ll have no choice but to give my charitable donations to the bloated coffers of Mormondom. But if that is what God is like, I’d be happier in a world of charitable apostates than cold-hearted Mormons.