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teoma2
Post  Post subject: Will there be a massive internal defection?  |  Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:31 am
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Recently, there was a thread posted on our sister site, PostMormon, about Grant Palmer coming into information, that certain highly placed influential leaders within the Beast, are knowledgeable of it being a fraud, yet are reluctant to officially defect due to the financial constraints set in place earlier, by certain legal "signing bonus contracts" when they were officially recruited or promoted into their leadership positions. Violation of this legally binding contractual financial agreement would result in a severe "early with drawl" type of penalty and has the potential to make subsequent financial life really miserable for any potential defector or group of defectors...seems its all based on that "filthy lucre" again, right?

Now in light that this whole beast is a recognized religious Ponzi scheme, would it be possible for these leaders within, who to me, are reaching out now and asking for some outside help, by divulging their sincere disaffection, to engage the legal arm of TSCC and win, since it is all based on fraud to begin with? If they have already spent their significant signing up bonus already, how could they fight for their freedom and win, without being crushed financially, and used as further examples of apostates? They recognize that they are trapped, and want out...otherwise, they wouldn't have talked to Palmer about this very thing in the first place....any ideas?

I'm just guessing here, that it all boils down to social pressure...exposing this to society, is probably the only sure cure?

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CONDOR75
Post  Post subject: Re: Will there be a massive internal defection?  |  Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 6:05 pm
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Wouldn't Surprise Me In The Slightest.....

Also I'd love to see the Feds do something RIGHT for a change by putting that entire freaking Church under Audit and see exactly where all the Tithes are really going to !

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Post  Post subject: Re: Will there be a massive internal defection?  |  Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 10:50 am
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Legally ... maybe they are trapped.

What can they do? Probably what they are doing with Palmer.
Leak info.
Leak stories.
Stir the pot.
Create unrest within.
Push for change.
Push for morality.

Peace

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CONDOR75
Post  Post subject: Re: Will there be a massive internal defection?  |  Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 10:49 am
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I predict a HUGE SHAKEUP is coming just like the Priest - Pedophile scandal rocked the Roman Catholic Church....

Little by Little the cracks are beginning to show

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Post  Post subject: Re: Will there be a massive internal defection?  |  Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 7:40 am
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When will the massive realignments begin to maybe slow down?

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teoma2
Post  Post subject: Re: Will there be a massive internal defection?  |  Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 7:59 am
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Most likely when their "operating capital" drops to all time lows.

Great improvements in social media are handling the controversy as it should..rest assured of that. Society is correcting itself, one member at a time.

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Post  Post subject: Re: Will there be a massive internal defection?  |  Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 6:18 pm
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In a sense, hasn't there been, isn't there an on-going mass defection?

In 2012 Reuters reported
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The LDS church claims 14 million members worldwide -- optimistically including nearly every person baptized. But census data from some foreign countries targeted by clean-cut young missionaries show that the retention rate for their converts is as low as 25 percent. In the U.S., only about half of Mormons are active members of the church, said Washington State University emeritus sociologist Armand Mauss, a leading researcher on Mormons.

Sociologists estimate there are as few as 5 million active members worldwide.
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With defections rising, the church has launched a program to stanch its losses. The head of the church, President Thomas Monson, who is considered a living prophet, has called the campaign "The Rescue" and made it his signature initiative, according to Jensen. The effort includes a new package of materials for pastors and for teaching Mormon youth that address some of the more sensitive aspects of church doctrine. "If they are not revolutionary, they are at least going to be a breath of fresh air across the church," Jensen told the Utah class.


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joseph's myth
Post  Post subject: Re: Will there be a massive internal defection?  |  Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 6:12 am
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Maybe the growing (already maybe huge) hunger pangs for badly needed honesty and true transparency will do most of the default decisive declarations.

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teoma2
Post  Post subject: Re: Will there be a massive internal defection?  |  Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 9:43 am
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Really now, 5,000,000 is just a couple of drops in the bucket, when one looks at the big picture of our world's population.

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joseph's myth
Post  Post subject: Re: Will there be a massive internal defection?  |  Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 2:21 am
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There's a lot of crooked LDS cashflow for such a spattering example of folks stuck and extraordinary intent upon exceedingly worshiping a prairy crossing horndog, for a prophet.

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