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Author:  joseph's myth [ Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:42 pm ]
Post subject:  LDS SEO ... good-word/

Search Engine Optimization, heh, always wondered what it might be called.


Author:  Melanie [ Sun May 03, 2015 4:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Oxymormon


Courtesy of RfM poster torturednevermo,1 ... sg-1574853

"Modesty is hottest"

Wow. So at the same time we’re complaining about women being sexually attractive to men, we’re also commenting with a term that completely connotes a woman’s sexual attractiveness to men. All in a three word sentence.

Insanity. Which way is it? I never cease to be amazed.

Oxymoron? More like oxymormon !

Author:  joseph's myth [ Tue May 05, 2015 7:57 am ]
Post subject:  Mormon Mindset

:-o Lying is not only encouraged, it's forgivable. Telling the truth is not. :-o

Author:  joseph's myth [ Sat May 09, 2015 1:58 am ]
Post subject:  Spanked Mormonism ... 50/#614440

Author:  joseph's myth [ Wed May 13, 2015 11:10 am ]
Post subject:  KoolAid Mountain Rescue

Dedicated to Ken (can do) Dueck!

One of the first ones in his family to get down safely. Look at you! Way to go Ken. ... t%3A192172

Author:  joseph's myth [ Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Ken (can do) Dueck

"...There is so much more to this than can be expressed in a brief statement here.  The letter remains completely imperfect, and will not be rewritten to appeal to a broader audience of critics.  It is was it is and is an honest expression of years of frustration.  You're stance is certainly more in step with what I received from my stake president.  Be that as it may........
It didn't take 30 years to come to some sudden conclusion that my family wasn't worth the hassle.  There wasn't some growing/evolving coldness in my heart to where I could without conscience separate myself from my family.  The departure from the church and ultimately from my family..... took place over the course of over 20 years. Each time doubts were validated by fact, it shook me.....and ultimately when looking at my young children and the commitment of marriage to my wife, I shrank in my resolve to leave and tucked it away in the "ignore" file.  But it had an effect on me and was corrosive to my own soul and self perception.  The long term effect of the nagging feeling of something unresolved ultimately led to self deprication, suicidal thoughts and the overwhelming feeling of lack of faith and selfishness in my thoughs......and absolute worthlessness.  I hated myself and find it easy to drift it into that mindset.  2 years of counseling have done little to restore my self esteem.  You don't know me well enough to make your assessments.  I carry the blame that my actions brought about the death of my family and marriage.  No one can comprehend the effect that has on my conscience.  I am not a victim here in saying that.....i am the cause and the recipient.
The mindset as a contributing member is as such......In its simplest form, you go to bed at night feeling guilty and ashamed for your circumstance/doubts and for not having done enough to further the kingdom.  And when you wake up your first thought is the sick, naseaus feeling of having commited a serious sin for not believing with all of your heart, might, mind and strength.  You pray, repent and ask God to forgive you for your weakness and lack of faith and vow to do better the next day.  In my unworthiness thinking.... I became fixated on the thought that I wasn't worthy of a hot shower.  Moses, Abraham and even Joseph Smith the prophet never had the luxury of a well appointed bathroom and a how shower with a razor and great shampoo, soft towels etc.  This mindset destroys and does not lift as you go through the course of your day. Unhappiness, the feeling of unworthiness, deciet, shame, guilt etc become your constant companion.  
I worked harder and harder to live church doctrines so that I could prove to myself, and to my family that I needed to improve and the fault was not in the absurd nature of their doctrine.  IT was me.  I was convinced that I had TOO little faith, TOO much doubt and my heart was TOO hard to recognize truth.  To overcome that I educated myself.  Listening to Elder Maxwell and each and every talk over and over.  I bought and read over and over his 28 books, Hugh Nibley, Teaching of the prophets, Doctrines of Salvation and on and on and on. I spent thousands on church leader authored books and stopped reading anything that didn't come from Church leaders.  I read voraciously and over time, expanded my understanding and my abiltiy to express myself in the context of the church's doctrine.  I perpetuated the MYTH.  I live with that shame daily and am haunted by the thousands of people that I've visted with in making them feel what i felt.  That the problem lay with them and not with the doctrine.  I am ashamed of that and do feel that a day of reckoning will yet come for the role i've played.  It's affected every aspect of my life and now at 58 continue to try ot overcome the feelings of worthless for what i've done.  
As to the callings and your assessment that I somehow was bloated with self aggrandisement........Each calling came with renewed terror and realization of unworthiness and the unresolved doubts in my mind.  I had no problem quoting the words of Maxwell, Holland, Hinckley (to name a few) and share THEIR thoughts on doctrine.  Mine for the most part remained secret.  My wife on the other hand relished the fact that her husband was in leadership.  It was the one thing that made her happy and in restrospect, she truly defined your comment about benefitting from the power, prestige etc.  As an FYI, there is no power, and no prestige.  
If you have never served as a Bishop or HC or EQ Pres. and actually done what you were called to do, then you would not know that there is mind numbing exhaustion that accompanies the calling.  You are the recipient of far more criticism and hatred as you try to unravel and support people in their poor choices in life.  You don't sleep at night as you mull over what just happened.  What would drive a young man to masturbate his dog?  What would motivate a young woman to have 7 abortions?  Why was she so enamoured with being pregnant and then in the last few days of her first trimester would have the child aborted.  How do you help her stop cutting hersefl.  How do you calm yourself when you have searched indesparation for a young man who struggles with same gender attraction and the explusion from his family?  He's on the phone with you at 2 am and your trying to find out where on the railroad tracks he's layed down, waiting to be cut in pieces by the next freight train.  How do you sleep with the imagery of a beautiful you polynesian girl who is a week away from leaving on a mission, and has just taken a bottle of advil pm and 10 vicodin with almost a 5th of vodka, all because she cannot suppress her doubts.  It's  a royal mindf*ck to experience these things the night before you have to be uplifting and happy and smiling for the wedding you're going to perform in the morning or the baptism that you're supposed to conduct the next day or even later that night.  Prestige????  Power???  Shame on you for your comments that appear to emmanate from ignorance.  If you've never served in these roles, YOU ARE UNQUALIFED IN YOUR COMMENTS, and remind me of those who pontificate in Gospel Doctrine....even though they never read the lesson.  Maybe you're a disaffected member who never really gave your full effort to anything more than criticising others.  As Maxwell once said....."negative thoughts and criticism are like dandilions, and need no encouragement to grow".  
I would submit here in public forum that I have made mistakes and suffer immeasurably from my participation in all of this.  I blame much on myself and live and deal with that daily.  I also submit that part of the church's role is to keep people so busy that they are too exhausted mentally to actually think for themselves or to research something.  The ones that do find the time, generally don't give anything of themselves to the church or to it's ability to succeed.   
When I was a much younger man, my father (a rock solid mennonite christian) told me there are three kinds of people in the world.  
1.  People who watch things happen
2.  People who make things happen
3.  People who wonder....what just happened.  
If affected me greatly at the time and still has influence in my life today...40 years later. 
I leave it to you to decide where YOU fit into that description.  I suppose the forum will form it's own opinion of where you might fall into it as well. 
I've been all three in my life and eventually gravitated to becoming a 2.  I made things happen.  I sacraficed incalcuable amounts of time and money to the betterment of a human life.  The thousands of dollars that were given to YSA's to bail them out of jail, pay for rent, tickets, warrants etc could not be counted as tithing.  As a Bishop we didn't have enough $$ in Fast Offerings to pay for these things, and for the most part was a violation of church policy to spend money on these things.  Someone had to do something to get them out of a rut and give them a fresh start.  The system is broken and completely ineffective, both in the church's system as well as in society....but that's another topic in itself.  None of these additional gifts were or could be claimed as tithing by the church.  It was an enormous financial hardship.  But..... I bought into the culture of goodness that "mormonism" engenders/markets itself in society....of being a good, principled person who is kind, patient, loving, generous, long suffering and all the other "godly" attributes that they hope to be known for.
I'm not sure my IQ has improved over 30 years.  I do know that my naivity has certainly been removed.  And as to being entire family has been vicitimized, as have countless others.  
You cannot begin to calculate the effects my departure has had on the thousands of YSA's that i've worked with, or the over 500 marriages i've performed with YSA's that come out of addictiion and found a loving companion and have started their own families.  I'm haunted by excruciating feelings of shame for the young families that have named their child after me as a offering of gratitude and respect.  No amount of appology or explanation can soften the feelings that they have when they call their child and are reminded of the origins of the name and how the person who once helped them, now stands for something entirely different.  It's confusing for them and probably embarassing.  That will last a lifetime.
As to my immediate family, they too are victims.......different elements.......they remain the victims of the church's mind control and doctrine and the feelings of unworthiness, and remain too afraid to confront real truth.  They are also the vicitms of the destruction of my marriage and family dissintegration, not just me.  At the center of all of the feelings of vicitimization remains the LDS Church.  Which in the letter was my focal point.  They are the core of what has happened to me and many others.  My story is not unique in any way, but I want to be a voice against the LDS Church and it's destructive nature.  Families are NOT forever as the church claims.  They only are if you do it there way.  If they were truly for families to be together forever, they wouldn't encourage spouses to leave one another when there is a faith crisis that challenges their doctrines and origins with FACT. 
So much more could be said here, but I do need to get to work."

Author:  joseph's myth [ Tue Dec 08, 2015 2:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Mormon Millennial's Managing

Yes, there are struggles but more importantly, success. Lots and lots of successes! ... ata_player

Author:  joseph's myth [ Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:03 am ]
Post subject:  Spooky Mormon Dream

The 'Spooky Mormon Dream', of course references Broadway's take on The Book Of Mormon, fabulously fun song number.

This is however more stone sober than anything fun or entertaining. ... 08/#620384

Author:  teoma2 [ Fri Apr 29, 2016 8:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Glossary and Acronyms

Another Glossary Term: Myth Guardian as per usage when talking about or referring to "church" historians. In actuality or function, they do guard the myth. Joseph's Myth.

Author:  joseph's myth [ Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:47 am ]
Post subject:  Exmormon Excedrin (same as Anadin)

Temporarily relieves minor aches and pains due to:

• Forcing Exmormon attendance to Mormon function

• Headaches

• A cold

• Arthritis

• Muscular aches

• Toothache

• Premenstrual and menstrual cramps

Original credit goes to Melanie viewtopic.php?f=7&p=130335&sid=164a891fc42fbde47425d8cbd43fe319#p130335

Author:  joseph's myth [ Tue Apr 04, 2017 2:58 am ]
Post subject:  Googling Mormons

Plural, because you are not alone.


Author:  joseph's myth [ Sun Apr 09, 2017 1:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Spooky Mormon Dream

joseph's myth wrote:
The 'Spooky Mormon Dream', of course references Broadway's take on The Book Of Mormon, fabulously fun song number.

This is however more stone sober than anything fun or entertaining. ... 08/#620384

This is mostly what the non recoverable postmo site talked about.

Burning in the bosom only a common communicable disease, not goosebumps from God or anything remotely spiritual to cherish.
Call it LDS Emotionalism! ... ylori.html

Author:  joseph's myth [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:59 am ]
Post subject:  Unbelievable LDS Trouble

Sometimes something terribly awful is terribly inspiring, what a wonderful Mormon trademark!

Mormonism Has Unbelievable Trouble


Author:  joseph's myth [ Sat May 13, 2017 6:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Memorable Jason Bourne Line I'm On My Own Side Now

Just in case you might need a tiny boost in your spirit or or maybe want something really super easy and super good to take away from an original trend setting flick.

Author:  joseph's myth [ Mon May 29, 2017 8:08 am ]
Post subject:  Tourmonism

Come to Utah for vacation, and go home on probation! ... story.html

Catchy phrase for 2018 tourism jingle, no mix of state and church? (nonotatall) ... l-clout-in

Author:  joseph's myth [ Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:12 am ]
Post subject:  Mormon Ewww America's Most Respectable Cult

I know the LDS church is, ewww...

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=50151&sid=f84126d5f0380107461bbf5fcbd5c868#p118798 Mormon Ick

I guess the Simpson's had it right at beginning from the start.

Author:  joseph's myth [ Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:54 am ]
Post subject:  Mormon Rodeo

This is great, haven't yet figured out what LDS person is maybe getting paid off or how they get their cool $3 MIL back but I like the phraseology so much I couldn't dare and pass it up.

Mormon Rodeo! ... raise.html


No real mention that the big hubbub is perfectly timed for the 2017 Utah Pioneer Day festivities, but it's just a given conclusion in reality.

Gotta give it to em, quite the sneaky way to circle the wagons as if they were still defending a religious need to keep inbred propositions alive, (Present Day LDS Multi-Wife Temple Ordinances) also known as key sources of Accidental LDS Incest.

Author:  joseph's myth [ Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Brighamy (Bigamy) As In Brigham Young ... nd-bigamy/

Try and claim exclusions from subjugation to the good laws of the land citing religious discrimination and then land your movement squarely in the crosshairs of Accidental Mormon Inbreeding also now recently tagged Accidental LDS Incest.

"And while Bartholow was not as confident as the New Orleans physicians that polygamy was the culprit, he was as certain as they that a “new race” had evolved. This condition is shown by…the large proportion of albuminous and gelatinous types of constitution, and by the striking uniformity in facial expression and in physical conformation of the younger portion of the community….The yellow, sunken, cadaverous visage; the greenish-colored eyes; the thick, protuberant lips; the low forehead; the light, yellowish hair, and the lank, angular person, constitute an appearance so characteristic of the new race, the production of polygamy, as to distinguish them at a glance."
This is all repeated in the thread, "Hate Mormons Go To Prison" as a titled entry. You'll see in the links that Mormonism is officially declared a separate and distinct ethnic group.

Yonder Muslims have Mormon likened trouble in more than a single area.

Don't go and do the mistake of downloading an app that could promote any inbreeding in a NY minute. ... -1.3525770

Rebecca is the yellow haired bluish-green sunglassed model, did you notice?

"...the greenish-colored eyes; the thick, protuberant lips; the low forehead; the light, yellowish hair, and the lank, angular person, constitute an appearance so characteristic of the new race..."

Author:  joseph's myth [ Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:57 am ]
Post subject:  MYLGA

Make Your Life Great Again (MYLGA)


And, after this Halloween of 2017 you don't even have to dress up or think about how to pretend, when successful in pursuing to do it!


It was way way back in June of 2015, actually was on June first and how I might have known I don't know.


At a time when readership is Yhugh (snort snort, sorry), maybe even higher than ever before it's sometimes best to have a backup plan, could also be a WayBack plan, heh...



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